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Date : 31st Aug 10
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Follow up on the previous post.

I went out this evening to check out the horse mushrooms that I had identified in my previous post. Some of them now have a cracked grey surface (first picture). I brought a few home and then had the bejesus scared out of me when the stems turned yellow at the base on cutting (second picture). The rims of the caps also turned yellow as i ran my finger along them, although the caps only turned very slightly yellow on the application of a fair bit of pressure (third picture). I have looked through Phillips and see that the caps of horse mushrooms bruise slightly yellow although there is no mention of the stems doing so. The smell is still oddly chemical as mentioned in the previous post - I wouldn't describe it as aniseed, which is what Phillips mentions.

Of course, being new to all this, I'm easily upset, but I'd appreciate advice,

Thanks

Stephen


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Wild Mushroom Identification - Recommended Books for All Skill Levels:
Every amateur mycologist should have a decent library of books, here are the top five books I highly recommend for wild mushroom identification:
 
1) Field Guide to Edible Mushrooms of Britain and Europe  - Great layout with superb images - Peter Jordan
2) Mushroom Picker's Foolproof Field Guide  - A good all round book - Peter Jordan
3) The Mushroom Book - This one is a proper belter with loads and loads of good technical data - Thomas Laessoe
4) Complete Mushroom Book: The Quiet Hunt  - A lovely book by a lovely man. Antonio Carluccio
5) The River Cottage Handbook - Mushrooms - Always a favourite from Hugh's fungi specialist friend, John Wright

It is important to have at least 3 books so you can cross reference and cover as many species as possible

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Posted By,  josh chell on August 31,2010
 
hi,
i found some of what i thought to be horse mushrooms too but when i inspected them closer they had what you described as a chemical smell thus leading me to believe, as i did, youv found yellow stainer mushrooms the smell is from the phenol they contain smells like antisceptic cream (germolene) these are not edible :)
Posted By,  geoff on August 31,2010
 
As I said...it pays to be careful with what look like horse mushrooms, especially when they are buttons. And there's no way to accurately describe a smell. It also helps if you've seen, and would recognise a yellow stainer, both by the amount of staining and the smell.

When I said "yeah, these are horse mushrooms", it was in the context of it possibly being confused for a button deathcap. It's a lot easier to confuse a horse mushroom button for another agaricus, but this mistake won't kill you. Some people can eat yellow stainers with no ill effects. I've never tried.
Posted By,  Stephen on September 1,2010
 
Thanks a lot for the comment Josh, I think perhaps the smell is reminiscent of antiseptic cream as you suggest, although being both highly suggestible and a hypochondriac I'm pretty sure I'd now get the full range of effects associated with yellow stainers whether thats what they indeed are or not.

Geoff, as ever, thanks a lot for your suggestions, its great to have the identification books, but they're no substitute for being able to put questions to/pester someone with experience of this sort of thing. Given the images I've uploaded here, and the fact that at this stage I would be pretty much guaranteed stomach cramps whether the mushrooms turned out to be yellow stainers or not, what would you say the amount of staining indicates?

Final naive question of the evening: is it possible/usual to have two species of agaricus (or any other mushrooms for that matter) growing close together (inches apart) on the same site, or might presence of one preclude the other?
Posted By,  geoff on September 1,2010
 
Stephen,

So you already ate them? BE CAREFUL! :-D

As I said, some people don't react to them, and that might include you. Also, two mushrooms of different species growing very close together is one of the classic ways that people get poisoned. They correctly identify one of them and don't realise that the others around it are not all the same.
Posted By,  geoff on September 1,2010
 
....and I can't tell you about the amount of staining from pictures. I didn't do the handling. I don't know how much you bashed them.... I need these mushrooms in front of me or I cannot be sure of anything!
Posted By,  Stephen on September 1,2010
 
Cheers Geoff, I hadn't eaten them already, I was just alluding to my being a paranoid wreck and being liable to experience all of the symptoms psychosomaticaly once my imagination has been set off. Having said that, the main pleasure I take from looking for mushrooms is in learning more about how to identify them, so its all good...
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